Sexual Atheism: Christian Dating Data Reveals a Deeper Spiritual Malaise

This article  Sexual Atheism: Christian Dating Data Reveals a Deeper Spiritual Malaise is a little off the point for this blog, But, it documents a growing reality in Christianity: Compartmentalizing behavior and faith.

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April 16, 2014

The Christ and Culture Update

Tolerance

Photographers must photograph gay weddings!

The Christ who will not worship Satan to gain the world’s kingdoms is followed by Christians who will worship only Christ in unity with the Lord whom he serves. And this is intolerable to all defenders of society who are content that many gods should be worshiped if only Democracy or America or Germany or the Empire receives its due, religious homage [today read: the Church yielding to the state in our present milieu of separation between Church and state].

DA Carson’s examples:

Pigs!

“The lyrics are heard in our brains!”

Lincoln on tolerance

The handout from last week

Paths to an acceptance of gay Christianity

1) Re-translate the text.

See the following website for a treatment of the word physikos in Romans 1 where the writer claims that Paul is actually talking about people operating opposite to the way they were born. Thus, persons…

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April 16, 2014

Tolerance

Photographers must photograph gay weddings!

The Christ who will not worship Satan to gain the world’s kingdoms is followed by Christians who will worship only Christ in unity with the Lord whom he serves. And this is intolerable to all defenders of society who are content that many gods should be worshiped if only Democracy or America or Germany or the Empire receives its due, religious homage [today read: the Church yielding to the state in our present milieu of separation between Church and state].

DA Carson’s examples:

Pigs!

“The lyrics are heard in our brains!”

Lincoln on tolerance

The handout from last week

Paths to an acceptance of gay Christianity

1) Re-translate the text.

See the following website for a treatment of the word physikos in Romans 1 where the writer claims that Paul is actually talking about people operating opposite to the way they were born. Thus, persons not born gay but engaging in homosexual activity are violating God’s law, suggesting to the writer that a gay person in relationship with another gay person is what God intends. All of this because the author claims that the word lying beneath “nature” or “natural” has been mis-translated.

http://www.thegodarticle.com/7/post/2011/10/clobbering-biblical-gay-bashing.html

http://queeringthechurch.com/2010/03/02/clobber-texts-a-new-reading-of-leviticus/

2) Re-interpret the text.

See James V. Brownson’s book, Bible, Gender, Sexuality, where the author reinterprets the texts by recovering the underlying “moral logic” of the text.

3) Apply the text differently in light of modern culture, particularly the view that “loving, monogamous, same-sex” relationship were not in view.

https://www.gaychristian.net/justins_view.php

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/leviticus.html

http://www.matthewvines.com/transcript/

4) Agree with the text but dismiss it for the sake of modern sensibilities.

The Phyllis Tickle interview with Andrew Marin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOQQPC_SsEs&list=FLcqHu8ilKp75pBGfY-UxaAQ&index=11

5) Marginalize the text as non-essential

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidhenson/2014/03/i-dont-blame-world-vision-i-blame-homophobia-and-hate/

6) Lessen the importance of the texts by emphasizing love, poverty, acceptance.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidhenson/2014/03/i-dont-blame-world-vision-i-blame-homophobia-and-hate/

7) Re-direct attention from the texts by focusing on what Jesus did not say.

Hello, Scott.

I follow your distinction between pre-marital sex and adultery: in adultery, the partners are betraying their spouses and children. But- when two women love each other, there are no victims like that. I would say that therefore, because there are no victims, the sin is less- or nonexistent. I am delighted that my church lobbied the UK government to allow church weddings for gay people, and the Government will allow that for any denomination which opts in. Many churches will.

Jesus said that if a man look at a woman with lust in his heart, he had already committed adultery. He did not say the same if a man look at a man.

http://ccithink.com/2013/03/31/why-the-focus-on-homosexuality-abortion-evolution-arent-all-sins-the-same-in-gods-eyes-part-1/

8) Placate the text by compartmentalizing between principle and practice.

See the video featuring Justin Lee, president and founder of the Gay Christian Network

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/gays-and-christianity/3299076052001

9) Maintaining a neutral position

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/death-of-evangelicalism/

The end of Evangelicalism as we have known it

Rachel Held Evans

“The Day Evangelicalism Died”

 

 

 

Maybe The Liberals Will Love You Now! The Bushes and Same-Sex Marriage

scottythinks

It has widely been reported that former President George H. W. Bush, or “Bush 41” as he is called, served as a witness at a gay marriage ceremony in Maine. The newlyweds were some of his long time friends.

I think most conservatives thought that they could count on the Bushes to uphold conservative Christian values. The AP article I read1 revealed that, other than the two elder Bushes, Laura, her daughter Barbara, and Dick Cheney all support gay marriage (Cheney’s daughter is gay). President George W. seems to have retreated into an “I won’t answer that question because I’m not in politics” mode, and Jeb apparently thinks the state should decide and that we all need to be supportive of non-traditional families. All of this is disappointing but not all that surprising. It is the rare leader these days who sticks to his values in the midst…

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What we can expect with the gay rights issue . . .

scottythinks

Since gay rights have now successfully been elevated to the level of a civil rights issue–along with women’s suffrage and black civil rights, as per our President’s inaugural speech–I think we will see the current celebration roll into a full-fledged press for same-sex marriage across the states (as the article referenced below indicates). I do not know the amount of federal monies that become available for states who have made same-sex marriage legal but I cannot imagine that there aren’t any! And as brother Bill Clinton taught us it is all about the money!

I ALSO THINK that we will see a heightened assault through the legal system against any and all individuals and/or institutions who have not yet affirmed their support of gay rights.

Finally, since it is now a civil rights issue, I think we can expect a Constitutional amendment in the not too distant future.

As for…

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